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Date: Thu, 12 May 94 03:00:23 PDT
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Info-Hams Digest            Thu, 12 May 94       Volume 94 : Issue  514

Today's Topics:
                    Amateur Radio and Civil Rights
                   Caning stamp? Seen on packet...
                              Gun Owners
                          HAM RADIO RUDENESS
                       Help:Bootleggers in area
                IBM Games for sale! (dozens of them!)
             INSTRUCTION/OPERATORS MANUALS up for grabs:
                 Luck Hurder ... gone:( Why? (2 msgs)
                       personal autopatch calls
                SKEDS WANTED: Any 'F' suffix stations
                 Tour de Lowell Bike Race help needed
                         Willful Interference

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policies or positions of any party.  Your mileage may vary.  So there.
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Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 11:45:43
From: travelers.mail.cornell.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!cornell.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Amateur Radio and Civil Rights
To: [e-mail]

stuff deleted

>--
>Chris Walker
>[e-mail]
Yes Chris, but amature radio is not guaranteed by the constitution. That
makes it simpler to get rid of them.
Carl (EX-Jarhead)
"To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the
protected will never know"

       SSSSS    EEEEE   MM    MM   PPPPPP   EEEEE   RRRRR
       S        E       M M  M M   P    P   E       R   R
       SSSSS    EE      M  M   M   PPPPPP   EEE     RRRR
           S    E       M      M   P        E       R   R
       SSSSS    EEEEE   M      M   P        EEEEE   R    R


       FFFFF    IIIII
       F          I
       FFF        I
       F          I
       F        IIIII

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Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 12:39:09 GMT
From: wang![e-mail]
Subject: Caning stamp? Seen on packet...
To: [e-mail]

I got this from a packet BBS last night:

----------------------[ begin included posting ]-------------------------

Date: 08 May 94 05:22
Message-ID: <17666@N6QMY> (3351@K1UGM)
From: KB6JAW@N6QMY
To: CANE@USBBS
Subject: Graphic Caning Coupon


Hi!

For those of you who are interested, I have produced a graphic of the
N6YUJ Caning Coupon. If you would like a copy, send a SASE (business
size) to:

David G. Hunt KB6JAW
4255 Bullard St.
Fremont, CA 94538

Worth the stamp!

73 de David KB6JAW @ N6QMY

-----------------------[ end of included posting ]----------------------

Wierd, or what?!
--
Dave Bushong, Wang Laboratories, Inc.

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Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 11:34:59
From: travelers.mail.cornell.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!cornell.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Gun Owners
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Shashi Kumar) writes:
>Path:
>newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!travelers.mail.cornell.edu!cornell!batcomputer!hooku
>p!news.kei.com!eff!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!ames!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.
>com!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!network.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway
>From: [e-mail] (Shashi Kumar)
>Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
>Subject: Re: Gun Owners
>Date: 4 May 94 16:08:28 GMT
>Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
>Lines: 13
>Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
>Originator: [e-mail]


>agate!gtewd.mtv.gtegsc.com![e-mail]
>writes

>>Gun owners protect your constitutional rights!

>I thought this was a forum for HAM radio not the NRA !!

>kumar

>[e-mail]
the two are more closely linked than you think.


Carl (EX-Jarhead)
"To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the
protected will never know"

       SSSSS    EEEEE   MM    MM   PPPPPP   EEEEE   RRRRR
       S        E       M M  M M   P    P   E       R   R
       SSSSS    EE      M  M   M   PPPPPP   EEE     RRRR
           S    E       M      M   P        E       R   R
       SSSSS    EEEEE   M      M   P        EEEEE   R    R


       FFFFF    IIIII
       F          I
       FFF        I
       F          I
       F        IIIII

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Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 13:59:55 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!yuma![e-mail]
Subject: HAM RADIO RUDENESS
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
*** Much about rudeness and frequency usage/ownership ***
>Let's get back to some decency and courtesy on the bands, people!
>This kind of garbage is for the CB crowd!
>Dorr Depew
>N4QIX

I totally agree IF you restrict the comment to below 50 MHz and some FM.

I almost blew off ham radio until I made some contacts on 6m and 2m SSB.
I'm also impressed at the civilty on 432 MHz.

I must say that I'm not in a metropolitan area, nor can I easily hear the
nearest big city (Denver) on the bands mentioned.

Come on up!
Galen, KF0YJ

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Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 13:14:04 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!news.clark.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!ns1.nodak.edu!dp1.lib.ndsu.NoDak.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Help:Bootleggers in area
To: [e-mail]

I'd like to post this to see what you all out there in radio/net-land think
and see if anyone has any ideas about what to do.

In my home town, where my Dad and Mom, both hams live there is a group of
bootleggers using 148.00Mhz.  It started with one No-coder who must have
thought it was fun to talk on fm.  He told his cb'er friends about it.  They
started to buy rigs too.  Now there is around 10 to 15 people, guys, wives,
little kids, all hanging out on 148.00.  They yak away, never identifying,
because only one of them has a license.  They cuss and swear and joke about
getting away with talking without a license.  Every now and then one of them
makes a mistake and transmits on the local repeater for one transmission, then
quickly moves back to 148.00 to talk to his/her buddies.

The local hams have contacted the FCC field office for the area many many
times.  At first the engineer in charge said he couldn't do anything about it
at all, he was too busy and understaffed and underbudgeted.  After many more
calls and complaints, he actually drove out to the community and listened in.
Yep, they were there, doing just what the locals said, alright.  Too bad.  In
fact, the engineer told the locals that they better be careful, these people
might retaliate on the local hams for turning them in.  The League has been
asked for help, the Official Observer people have been informed, but so far,
nothing has been done.  The local hams have tape recordings by the dozen, they
know exacly who these people are, where they live, where they work, the few
who actually do work, etc.  Still, the FCC nor the League will or can do
anything about it.

Now, I ask you, if these people can do this with impunity, why the heck should
the rest of us EVER worry about iding on time, or saying a cuss word now and
then, or even bother getting a license at all.

Oh yeah, I forgot, one of them is using a call that is assigned to a guy who
lives in St. Louis, which is a long way from here and he ain't the guy from
St. Louis.

This whole thing makes me sick, and my folks and the rest of the ham community
in the area are really ticked.  Wouldn't you be, too?

Now, what should they/we do about this situation.  Does anyone have any kind
of connection with the FCC?  Is there anyone out there who gives a damn?

Help!
**************************************
Joseph M. Gregg
Internet:  [e-mail]
Packet:  KN0A@W0ILO.#SEND.ND.USA.NOAM
LL:  701-588-4427
**************************************

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Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 16:32:03 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!austin.onu.edu!re101-03.onu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: IBM Games for sale! (dozens of them!)
To: [e-mail]

  These are used IBM games I have for sale.  Now I have played most of these
out, and I would like to get some money to buy the newer games, which I
understand are going for around $50 or so each.  Anyway, all the games here
are virus free, and include the original box, disks, and documentation.
Look through the list and write back if you want to buy one.  First come,
first served.  See bottom of list for shipping details, etc.

4D Boxing $7
Amazon $9
Balance of Power (1990) $9
Bard's Tale 3 $19
Battletech 1 $6
Battletech 2 $9
Breach 2 $9
Castles $11
Centurion: Defender of Rome $5
Conflict: Korea $7
Conquests of Camelot $5
Cybernetic Ranger $4
Dark Queen of Krynn $14
Darklands $14
Day of the Viper $7
Double Dragon 2 $4
Dragon Lord $6
Dragon Wars $6
Dune $9
Elvira 1 $16
Escape from Hell $7
Eye of the Beholder $9
Final Conflict $9
Fountain of Dreams $5
Ghosts & Goblins $5
Gunboat $9
Gunship $5
Hard Nova $8
Hyperspeed $8
Inca $18
Ishido $9
Kingdoms of Germany $29 (best one of the whole lot!)
Leather Goddesses 2 $23
Legend of Kyrandia $22
LHX Attack Chopper $6
Lightspeed $5
Magic Candle 1 $8
Magic Candle 2 $9
Magic Candle 3 $12 (all 3 for $25)
Mantis Experimental Fighter, VGA $15
Martian Memorandum $12
Megafortress $8
Merchant Colony $8
Midwinter $5
Might & Magic 1 $8
Might & Magic 2 $7
Might & Magic 3 $19
Millenium $ 4
Mines of Titan $5
Monkey Island (VGA) $16
Nightbreed $9
Pirates $4
Police Quest 1 (VGA) $9
Pool of Radiance $9
Populous $8
Prophecy 1 $5
Quest for Glory 1 (vga) $12
Quest for Glory 2 (ega) $12
Quest for Glory 3 (vga) $19 (or all 3 for $39)
Railroad Tycoon $14
Realms of Arkania $19
Red Lightning $5
Rex Nebular, & the Cosmic Gender Bender $19
Romance 3 Kingdoms $14
Rules of Engagement $6
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe $17
Sentinel Worlds 1 $9
Shadow Sorcerer $9
Shadowlands $12
Siege $8
Silpheed $14
Space 1889 $6
Space Hulk $22
Space Quest 1 (VGA) $9
Spirit of Excalibur $6
Star Control $13
Starflight 1 $5
Stellar 7 $14
Sword of Aragon $12
Tank $12
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - Arcade $9
Test Drive 2 $14
Theatre of War $8
Tracon $9
Ultima 4 Quest Avat. $14
Ultima 6 False Prophet $11
Ultima 7 Forge of Virtue $11
Ultima Trilogy 1 (1-3) $13
Ultima Underworld 1 $15
Uninvited $6
Warlords $6
Wing Commander 1 $9
Wizardry 4 $9

  That's it.  Big list, mostly older, but good games.  That's why the prices
are so good.  These games include original box, documentation, and disks.
All are complete and virus free. (I used f-prot to check them)

  Please add $3 to cover shipping and handling on 1st game, $1 each
additional game.  I will send the disk(s) that you request by priority mail (
2 days or less to get to you)  Please don't ask me to look up such & such
about game x or y, as I don't have time to do your research for you.  I
assume that if you are interested, you already know pretty much what the
game is about.  If you need more info about the game, I suggest
downloading an issue of GameBytes Magazine, which gives good reviews for a
lot of them.  You can find Gamebytes at ftp.uml.edu, under Games, in the
Game_Bytes subdirectory.  I am studying for finals, and will look at my e-
mail again in about a week.  If you have responded, I will write back and
tell you whether or not you were the first person to ask for a game.  Then
you can send me the check, (if you were lucky enough to be first) and I will
send you the game.  It's as simple as that.
Thanks!                                             Dan


*****************************************************************************
THE BIG, huge meteor headed toward the Earth.  Could nothing stop
it?  Maybe Bob could.  He was suddenly on top of the
meteor--through some kind of space warp or something.  "Go, Bob,
go!"  yelled one of the generals.  "Give me that!"  said the big
guy general as he took the microphone away.
"Listen, Bob," he said.  "You've got to steer that meteor away from
Earth."
"Yes, but how?"  thought Bob.  Then he got an idea.
Right next to him there was a steering wheel sticking out of the
meteor.
            -By Jack Handey
*****************************************************************************

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Date: 11 May 1994 17:45:29 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.service.uci.edu!mothra.nts.uci.edu![e-mail]
Subject: INSTRUCTION/OPERATORS MANUALS up for grabs:
To: [e-mail]

I have the following INSTRUCTION/OPERATORS MANUALS up for grabs:


HY-GAIN THUNDERBIRD (TH3Mk30 THREE ELEMENT HAM ANTENNA

CDE HAM II ROTOR


These INSTRUCTION/OPERATORS MANUALS are in various states of
condition.  Some are in good condition and some are in poor condition.

The intent is to give these INSTRUCTION/OPERATOR MANUALS to an
individual or entity who ACTUALLY has the equipment.

The first person to send me e-mail gets the booty.  Please send a
separate e-mail request for each INSTRUCTION OR OPERATORS MANUAL.  You
will be asked to send a SASE (large manila or other envelope) with the
appropriate amount of U.S. postage to me c/o the address in my .sig
file.

Good luck to one and all.

73,

~jack_

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Date: 11 May 1994 14:01:16 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Luck Hurder ... gone:( Why?
To: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
>The League may claim to be a non-profit firm, but in fact it is a for-profit
>publishing house. The sooner people start to realize this they will be
>better off.
..................

Almost all non-profit organization have extra sources of income to
reduce dues and subsequently increase membership. Would you be
willing to pay $60 rather than $30 a year? I support the ARRL
publications to a degree that they are good, advertisments are
screened (e.g., no Maxon non-tune antenna tuner), and opinions reflect
the interests of the ham community. Someone wrote that salaries at
ARRL are rather low and it could be difficult to attract best people.
If you want ARRL to be better, will you be willing to pay higher
dues?

Ignacy Misztal
Ham radio: NO9E, SP8FWB E-mail: [e-mail]
University Of Illinois      1207 W. Gregory Dr., Urbana, IL 61801, USA
tel. [phone]         Fax: [phone]

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Date: 11 May 1994 16:04:07 GMT
From: yar.cs.wisc.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Luck Hurder ... gone:( Why?
To: [e-mail]

Michael P. Deignan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>The League may be "non-profit" from the viewpoint of the IRS, but its
>certainly not non-profit from the viewpoint of the staff members who have
>made a career out of living off your membership fee to the League. Take a
>look over the years in the various issues of QST. Examine the names of the
>staff members. Look familiar? Seemingly never change? How many years has
>K1ZZ made a living off your membership dollars? Do you enjoy paying for his
>house, car, and vacation each year?

Do you really believe that truly non-profit firms go without paid employees?
If so, you are naive.
--
Jason J. Hanson        |   1510 Tripp Circle #VI309   |  [phone]
Univ. of Wisconsin     |    Madison, WI 53706-1294    |  Ham: N9LEA (Extra)
--  [e-mail]      =*++*=      n9lea@wd9esu.#scwi.wi.usa.noam  --

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Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 12:58:25 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!news.duke.edu!eff!news.kei.com!ub!galileo.cc.rochester.edu!ee.rochester.edu!rochgte!UUCP@network
Subject: personal autopatch calls
To: [e-mail]

 >  >I read recently that the FCC ruled that it is now permissable to make
 > personal
 >  >calls via autopatch to conduct personal tasks such as making a doctors
or
 >  >dentists appointment. Can anyone out there answer the following:
 >
 >         It's nice to have, but I wonder why anyone would use the autopatch
 >         to make doctors or dentists appointments.
 >
 > ... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

 ht> Your advice SUCKS. What in the world is the autopatch for? WRONG.

                        Huh?

 ht> Whatever YOU answered, its WRONG. Thats because whatever I DECIDE to
 ht> use it for I CAN use it for (within the law). Why should the law limit

        I never said you can't use the patch for whatever you want to
        use the patch for. I merely asked why anyone would WANT to use
        the patch to make personal appointments.

 ht> it to, essentially, anything but running a business on ham radio, and
 ht> then an idiot like you come along and LIMIT IT FURTHER, to WHATEVER
 ht> YOU FEEL is 'inappropriate'????????

        Did I say I wanted to limit what you can do? Quite the contrary,
        I am all for expanding the uses of the autopatch.

 ht> We dont need bully channel-cops like you around. Go beat your kids
 ht> into submission again and get the hell off this newsgroup. We already

        I'm not a channel-cop. In fact I'm not even close to being one. As
        for beating my kids.. I'm 17. I don't have any kids.

 ht> have part 97 and its QUITE CLEAR on what it allows and doesnt allow,
 ht> and the intent of the latest change was CLEARLY to ALLOW amateurs to
 ht> do things like order pizzas and make dentist appointments on the patch.

        I never said it didn't. And like I said earlier, I'm happy those
        changes were made.

 ht> The economics of patches in areas where each call costs money dictates
 ht> the use of the patch only when necessary... in areas where all local
 ht> calls are free, IT DOESNT. So, USE THE PATCH WHENEVER YOU FEEL LIKE
 ht> IT, HAMS.. Just stay within the LAW, not the holier-than-thou ideals of
 ht> no-brain OLD FARTS like THIS GUY!!!!

        Old fart? Remember now.. I'm 17. (There will be a quiz later).
        'Nuff said...

... "Could you continue your petty bickering? I find it most intriguing."

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Date: 11 May 1994 11:37:02 -0400
From: newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com![e-mail]
Subject: SKEDS WANTED: Any 'F' suffix stations
To: [e-mail]

Howdy...
I've set a weird goal for myself: working WAS with stations bearing the same,
solo "F" suffix as my own call.  I still need most of the states, so anyone
wishing to help out can arrange an HF sked (40-10m, including WARC, on CW or
SSB) for any time of day or night.

Tnx es 73,

Danny Goodman AE9F/6

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Date: 11 May 1994 11:32:06 -0400
From: newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com![e-mail]
Subject: Tour de Lowell Bike Race help needed
To: [e-mail]

POLICE AMATEUR RADIO TEAM (PART) OF WESTFORD ANNOUNCEMENT
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION, CONTACT:         Terry Stader, KA8SCP
                                          Tel: [phone]


The Police Aamteur Radio Team (PART) of Westford, MA is once again providing
the communications for the Tour de Lowell Citizen's bike races on Sunday,
June 12, 1994. We have counted on many of the ham radio operators volunteers
for previous years and again are asking for your help. The Lowell Sun,
sponsor of the race, took a year off last year... but are starting up the
annual event again this year!

The race runs fron 8:30 AM until about 11 AM and is 30 miles long travelling
through towns in Massachusetts (Lowell and Dracut) and New Hampshire (Windham
and Pelham). We will be getting together at about 7:30 AM. We'll be meeting
in downtown Lowell for assignment of station location throughout the route to
provide "some" traffic control as well as safety operations. We need at least
25 hams or more to safely run this net. So anyone is welcome to join us.

If you would like to help us out this year... you are invited to inquire or
send me your information about how I may contact you to any of the below
listed addresses. All you need is a 2 meter ht (although there will be some
440 cross-band activity for some of the remotes) and a little time Sunday
morning.

Please let me know if you would like more information or would like to just
say yes!

73 for now.... c u on the shortwaves
Terry Stader - KA8SCP
President-Police Amateur Radio Team of Westford-WB1GOF
ARRL SEC EMASS
Internet: [e-mail] (e-mail)  or
          [e-mail] (binaries/files >28K)
KA8SCP@WA1PHY.#EMA.MA.USA.NOAM
[e-mail] [44.56.4.82] Mac
                       [44.56.4.120] DOS Clone

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Date: 10 May 1994 08:09:44 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!post.its.mcw.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Willful Interference
To: [e-mail]

In my community one of the local repeaters has been plagued by an
individual or individuals who is causing willful interference with
others by constantly kerchuncking the repeater and also using DTMF
tones when others are on the air. This appears to be a willful
attempt to disrupt communications. I am looking for any insights
that people may have regarding the psychopathology of people who
engage in this behavior. Any insights or experience that people on
the net have had with these individuals would be most welcome. When
people have been caught were they well known and what was the
motivation. Your input may help us stop this illegal operation.
--
Michael J. Malloy                          Amateur Radio N9WJV
Medical College of Wisconsin               Compuserve 70334,3563
Milwaukee, Wisconsin                       Internet [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 16:00:11 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!news.duke.edu!eff!news.kei.com!world![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>e.
Subject : Re: Help:Bootleggers in area

Ed Naratil ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Which Senator or Congressman holds the purse strings for the FCC?  Anyone
: know?  Letters to our local Representatives seem to have no effect.

Here they are.  No responsibility for typos, outdated info, etc.
Go wild.

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Date: Wed, 11 May 94 03:05:27 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!udel!news.sprintlink.net!dg-rtp!webo!wellspring![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <2q9abe$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <2qbktu$[e-mail]>s.net
Subject : Re: Amateur Radio and Civil Rights

In article <2qbktu$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Schilling) writes:
>
>And what, exactly, is the favor amateur radio is getting from the feds?
>Being allowed to operate on a restricted list of frequencies at a restricted
>power level, with restrictions on what they can broadcast, all assuming they
>have an official license?  This is not a favor, any more than allowing
>citizens to own a restricted list of weapons, of restricted 'power', with
>restrictions on use and carry, again assuming one has an official license,
>would be a `favor' to gun owners.  It bothers me that a segment of the
>amateur radio community feels otherwise.  Fortunately, most of the amateur
>operators I know do not feel this way.
>
>--
>*John Schilling                    * "You can have Peace,           *
>*Member:AIAA,NRA,ACLU,SAS,LP       * or you can have Freedom.           *

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    Well John ,  You may count me as one of the amateur's that don't
  feel that way.

    It is a concern to me that so many of us just don't seem to care
  about our "Constitutionly [sp] protected freedoms"...

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73/ al
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  [e-mail]  /          And you Support you own Freedom >
  Work For Peace / Plan For Conflict  /            HONOR  ALWAYS
 [insert] Standard Disclamer Here<   >      BLESS / PEACE

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Date: (null)
From: (null)
Senate: Commerce, Science, and Transportation
508 Dirksen, 202-224-5115

(* = Communications Subcommittee, **=Chair Comm. Subcom.)

*Hollings SC, Chair
**Inouye HI
*Ford KY
*Exon NE
*Rockefeller WV
*Kerry MA
*Breaux LA
Bryan NV
*Robb VA
Dorgan ND
1 Vacant

Danforth MO
*Packwood OR
*Pressler SD
*Stevens AK
*McCain AZ
*Burns MT
*Gorton WA
Lott MS
Hutchinson TX

House: Energy and Commerce Committe, Telecommunications and Finance
Subcommittee
2125 Rayburn, 202-225-2927

Markey MA 7 Chair
Tauzin LA 3
Boucher VA 9
Manton NY 7
Lehman CA 19
Schenk CA 49
Margolies-Mezvinsky PA 13
Synar OK 2
Wyden OR 3
Hall TX 4
Richardson NM 3
Slattery KS
Bryant TX 5
Cooper TN 4

Fields TX 8
Bliley VA 7
Oxley OH 4
Schaefer CO 6
Barton TX 6
McMillan NC 9
Hastert IL 14
Gillmor OH 5

Of course, anyone on House Appropriations or Senate Budget (esp. Moynihan)
also has a good deal of purse power.

-drt

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